Hey "samde" i kinda have an idea that you were an aircraft mechanic with our usaf.... my usaf days go back into last century..... laugh !..... the days of flights of our b-36s and later our f-102s..... those delta wing birds could glide 15 nautical miles per 10,000 feet altitude after having a flame out if..... it had a windmilling turbine..... wow ! i saw one do that from about 85 miles out from one of our northern afbs.... sam, thank you for your service and have a great week !.... ps/ when you get some time, check your facebbok site....