" BELOW IS OUR WHOLE CONVERSATION i HAD WITH THE SELLER OF THE ITEM. YOU BE THE JUDGE OF IT I HAV ... " (more)E NOT RESPONDED TO SELLER NEGATIVITY BUT THIS IS HOW THEY TREATED ME AND THEN POST THINGS ON ALL MY AUCTIONS THIS IS WHAT GOOD LISTIANS PUT UP WITH!!! CHECK ALL MY FEED BACK CONTACT ALL MY BUYERS AND SELLERS NO ONE WILL SAY THIS STUFF ABOUT ME! i WILL BE CONTACTING LISTIA ABOUT YOUR RETALIATION!!!!!
please let me know when you are mailing it out so i can watch for it k Thank you so much for listing! I am about to change my profile pic and u'll see why i wanted this lol Thanks Alayna Oct 17th, 2011 at 12:26:21 AM EDT (8 days ago) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you. Will mail out in morning with tracking number. Oct 17th, 2011 at 1:07:45 AM EDT (8 days ago) by citycop70 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 10/24/2011 5:08 PM (about 22 hours ago), you wrote to citycop70:
citycop70 (90) 100% contacting you I am contacting you on an auction of yours that won not long ago with the lady bug candy basket. I have talked to a few people and I thought I should talk to you first before I decide on other actions. But the auction item you sent me is not clean. it is covered in fur. On the sides and completely covering the bottom of the basket. And in your description it was stated that it was clean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sorry you are not happy with the item. Just mail it back and when I get it o will refund your credits. Thank you. Oct 24th, 2011 at 9:07:43 PM EDT (about 18 hours ago) by citycop70 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` TO citycop70,
Action Required: The winner on the following auction is disputing the transaction. Please respond to the dispute from the auction page within 5 days or their credits will be refunded automatically. You can choose to agree or disagree with the dispute.
Auction: Halloween stuffed animal candy basket Oct 24th, 2011 at 10:12:51 PM EDT (about 16 hours ago) by you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You Have Requested A Refund: Other
The item description stated it was CLEAN!! Listia Rules >>> "Mis-represented items - Any type of misrepresentation of the listed item is prohibited" I have contacted the seller as well and they wish me to send the item back for a refund of credits. I don't believe that it's my responsibility to send an item back that was sent to me in a dirty condition for a refund of my credits I shouldn't have to pay to send it back when they sent me the dirty (fur covered) item after describing it as clean. If they had an animal that could have left fur on it they should have stated that in the description. If any of us were allergic to animal fur we could have been sick. I have also contacted listia by email #77310 I do not wish to leave neg. feedback for the seller and nor am I a trouble some listia member I only leave neg feedback/disputes when absolutely necessary! You just can't send pet fur covered items to people with stating in the description the item is clean. Thank you Alayna (Filed about 11ish pm) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Seller Reply
First of all the item was clean since I inspect every item I send. If you look at the picture of the item it shows it is clean. Having some dog hair on the item does not make it dirty. My profile pic is of my dog so how can the buyer not know I have dogs. I told this seller to send item back and I would refund the credits. I paid for the shipping of the item to the bidder. If she keeps the item and gets her credits back that would be theft. Just look at the pictures and you can see item was clean. I just believe bidder did not want item after she received it and it has nothing to do with it being dirty. This listia member is trying to steal from me and that is not right. Oct 24th, 2011 at 11:16:01 PM EDT (about 15 hours ago) by citycop70 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xxbuffyxx82, you have a new message from citycop70
Your message starts here:
That item was not dirty. You are a disgusting human being by trying to steal items from a free site. You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you think it is ok to keep my item and get your credits back. DO NOT bid on anymore of my auctions. I am blocking you. I only deal with honest listians. Again shame on you. Monday, October 24, 2011 11:36 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TO MODERATOR REVIEWING DISPUTE
I can supply photos if needed of item. I had an issue with the fur of course. I do not steal! I am a good listia member and i happen to be a christian so i am not going to be lying about something. As you can see the photos below of the auction. the item bottom is not picture and that is where most of the fur is. The legs on the bottom of the item do have a slight discoloration due to dirt but i wasn't as worried about that as i was the fur. If you need photos I will gladly take pictures of what I am talking about. I have kept the item put up in the box it came in. And also it is really silly to think i didnt want the item after i have gotten it. The first message i had sent the buyer is to look at my profile picture and that is why I wanted this auction to go with the out fit my other youngest daughter will be wearing for halloween. I also want to inclue that the auction seller is sending me insulting messages that are not showing on the auction page but threw the profile. Below is a copy of what was stated back to me after filing the dispute.
10/24/2011 11:36 PM (about 4 hours ago), citycop70 wrote to you: citycop70 (90) 100% Re: contacting you
That item was not dirty. You are a disgusting human being by trying to steal items from a free site. You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you think it is ok to keep my item and get your credits back. DO NOT bid on anymore of my auctions. I am blocking you. I only deal with honest listians. Again shame on you. 10/24/2011 5:08 PM (about 10 hours ago), you wrote to citycop70: contacting you
I am contacting you on an auction of yours that won not long ago with the lady bug candy basket. I have talked to a few people and I thought I should talk to you first before I decide on other actions. But the auction item you sent me is not clean. it is covered in fur. On the sides and completely covering the bottom of the basket. And in your description it was stated that it was clean.
MODERATOR Please review all of my experience with listia. I believe you will find that I take great pride in providing good service to people and don't file disputes on people for no reason. I have just cause and I am being totally truthful. I put careful thought into opening a dispute and even spoke to a few other good standing listia members to decide whether or not to file a dispute. And as i have told you about of the problem they stated to file a dispute. So I went ahead and told the auction buyer wrote listia from the contact section and then filed the dispute. And as you see above I get contacted by the seller in a neg. way for doing what i believe to be the right thing to do which is to contact you and describe the issue. Oct 25th, 2011 at 3:55:36 AM EDT (about 11 hours ago) by you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xxbuffyxx82, you have a new message from citycop70
Your message starts here:
You are a thief. You want your credits back but won't send me my item back to me. What do you call that. How many other people have you stolen from. Why do you think its alright to keep my item and get the creds back. I told u I would be happy to refund your credits as soon as I get the item back. I don't see how u think its ok to keep the item. That is called stealing. You give all listians a bad name by acting like this. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself. Keeping the item and getting refund of credits is stealing so you can go to hell. Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:16 AM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ how come you dont reply on the auction page.... and i never stated that i had to keep the item. I stated its not my responsibility pay to send the item back. for you to state that its clean and the item actually wasn't. Oct 25th, 2011 at 4:44:21 AM EDT (about 10 hours ago) by you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I thought I was replying on the auction page. You are nothing but a thief and a liar. You make it sound like I sent you a nasty item. The pictures show the item is clean and not filthy like you are implying. If it had some dog hair on it you should just vacume it off not try to get your credits back and keep my item. Like I am really going to trust you to send it back to me buy sending you money. You are crazy. There are very little scammers on this cite but a person like you are the reason people like me have to get tracking numbers for the free items we send out.
The 400 credits you gave for the item is not that much and I don't care if you get them back but ill be damned if you keep my item too. I will let everyone I know not to ever have dealings with you on this site again. You are a thief which makes you a disgusting human being. I joined listia so I can pass on some great items for free with shipping I pay for because I believe in the free site but theifs like you ruin it for everyone. Oct 25th, 2011 at 7:14:28 AM EDT (about 7 hours ago) by citycop70 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(notice the time on these two this person ponders for 15mins) Oh. In my experience when the first thing someone throws out is their religion when trying to make a point that means they are lying. I have been a police officer for 15 years and when someone on the street tells me that the are a Christian or any other religion so they would not commit the crime has always been proven they did commit the crime. And what is the first thing you threw out there. Your religion. You should be ashamed of your self. If u don't like the item just send it back and get your credits back. That is so simple. But u want me to send you money so I can get my item back from you. That makes no sense. Oct 25th, 2011 at 7:31:30 AM EDT (about 7 hours ago) by citycop70 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then as a person of the law so to speak you should have noticed that when a person is totally on the defensive from the get go like you have been normally means they are in the wrong. Also as a person of the law you should know for a fact that SLANDER and DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER is against the law. QUOTING YOU HERE " I WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW NOT TO EVER DO DEALING WITH YOU ON THIS SITE AGAIN. " And you threaten me with that. Threatening people is also against the law. And those are just easy facts that they first teach you in criminal justice. Which I take at youngstown state university. Along with psychology. which is a needed course for criminal justice. Then you attack my religion. Makes me wonder what kind of a person you really are. Just because I believe in god makes me a liar...hmmm I am not the one calling names here and putting words in my mouth that i never typed here and threatening me with slander and defamation of character. Which my feedback here clearly indicates my character for this site. and QUOTING YOU AGAIN " IF IT HAD SOME DOG HAIR ON IT YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST VACUM IT OFF (vacuum)" So you just think that you can send items to people that have fur on them and its their job to clean it..... you shouldn't be auctioning things that people have to clean! It's not my job to clean an item that is described as clean which means there shouldn't be any fur on it to begin with and its a children's item at that. I have never stated the item was nasty and I don't even describe it in a way that someone should think nasty or filthy at all. And I didn't ask you to send me money at all. I stated that I shouldn't have to pay to ship an item back that was sent to me dirty. People are allergic to pet fur! One of my children could have been harmed if they had been allergic to dog fur. If I was a bad mom or person I wouldn't have ever alerted you to the fact it had fur all over it. I wasn't hostile or ignorant or rude or ridicule you or resulting in name calling to mention it to you and I didn't threaten you with slander either.
Stop threatening me its just not cool!
Oct 25th, 2011 at 2:41:08 PM EDT (less than a minute ago) by you"
BELOW IS OUR WHOLE CONVERSATION i HAD WITH THE SELLER OF THE ITEM. YOU BE THE JUDGE OF IT I HAV ... " (more)E NOT RESPONDED TO SELLER NEGATIVITY BUT THIS IS HOW THEY TREATED ME AND THEN POST THINGS ON ALL MY AUCTIONS THIS IS WHAT GOOD LISTIANS PUT UP WITH!!! CHECK ALL MY FEED BACK CONTACT ALL MY BUYERS AND SELLERS NO ONE WILL SAY THIS STUFF ABOUT ME! i WILL BE CONTACTING LISTIA ABOUT YOUR RETALIATION!!!!!
please let me know when you are mailing it out so i can watch for it k
Thank you so much for listing! I am about to change my profile pic and u'll see why i wanted this lol
Thanks
Alayna Oct 17th, 2011 at 12:26:21 AM EDT (8 days ago)
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Thank you. Will mail out in morning with tracking number.
Oct 17th, 2011 at 1:07:45 AM EDT (8 days ago) by citycop70
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10/24/2011 5:08 PM (about 22 hours ago), you wrote to citycop70:
citycop70
(90) 100% contacting you
I am contacting you on an auction of yours that won not long ago with the lady bug candy basket.
I have talked to a few people and I thought I should talk to you first before I decide on other actions.
But the auction item you sent me is not clean. it is covered in fur.
On the sides and completely covering the bottom of the basket.
And in your description it was stated that it was clean.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry you are not happy with the item.
Just mail it back and when I get it o will refund your credits.
Thank you.
Oct 24th, 2011 at 9:07:43 PM EDT (about 18 hours ago) by citycop70
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TO citycop70,
Action Required: The winner on the following auction is disputing the transaction.
Please respond to the dispute from the auction page within 5 days or their credits will be
refunded automatically. You can choose to agree or disagree with the dispute.
Auction: Halloween stuffed animal candy basket
Oct 24th, 2011 at 10:12:51 PM EDT (about 16 hours ago) by you
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You Have Requested A Refund: Other
The item description stated it was CLEAN!!
Listia Rules >>> "Mis-represented items - Any type of misrepresentation of the listed item is prohibited"
I have contacted the seller as well and they wish me to send the item back for a refund of credits.
I don't believe that it's my responsibility to send an item back that was sent to me in a dirty condition for a refund
of my credits I shouldn't have to pay to send it back when they sent me the dirty (fur covered) item after describing it as clean.
If they had an animal that could have left fur on it they should have stated that in the description.
If any of us were allergic to animal fur we could have been sick. I have also contacted listia by email #77310
I do not wish to leave neg. feedback for the seller and nor am I a trouble some listia member
I only leave neg feedback/disputes when absolutely necessary! You just can't send pet fur covered items to
people with stating in the description the item is clean.
Thank you
Alayna (Filed about 11ish pm)
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Seller Reply
First of all the item was clean since I inspect every item I send. If you look at the picture of the item it shows it is clean.
Having some dog hair on the item does not make it dirty. My profile pic is of my dog so how can the buyer not know I have dogs.
I told this seller to send item back and I would refund the credits.
I paid for the shipping of the item to the bidder. If she keeps the item and gets her credits back that would be theft.
Just look at the pictures and you can see item was clean. I just believe bidder did not want item after she received it and it has
nothing to do with it being dirty. This listia member is trying to steal from me and that is not right.
Oct 24th, 2011 at 11:16:01 PM EDT (about 15 hours ago) by citycop70
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xxbuffyxx82, you have a new message from citycop70
Your message starts here:
That item was not dirty. You are a disgusting human being by trying to steal items from a free site.
You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you think it is ok to keep my item and get your credits back.
DO NOT bid on anymore of my auctions. I am blocking you. I only deal with honest listians. Again shame on you.
Monday, October 24, 2011 11:36 PM
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TO MODERATOR REVIEWING DISPUTE
I can supply photos if needed of item. I had an issue with the fur of course.
I do not steal! I am a good listia member and i happen to be a christian so i am not going to be lying about something.
As you can see the photos below of the auction. the item bottom is not picture and that is where most of the fur is.
The legs on the bottom of the item do have a slight discoloration due to dirt but i wasn't as worried about that as i was the fur.
If you need photos I will gladly take pictures of what I am talking about. I have kept the item put up in the box it came in.
And also it is really silly to think i didnt want the item after i have gotten it. The first message i had sent the buyer is to look at my profile
picture and that is why I wanted this auction to go with the out fit my other youngest daughter will be wearing for halloween.
I also want to inclue that the auction seller is sending me insulting messages that are not showing on the auction page but threw the profile.
Below is a copy of what was stated back to me after filing the dispute.
10/24/2011 11:36 PM (about 4 hours ago), citycop70 wrote to you:
citycop70
(90) 100% Re: contacting you
That item was not dirty. You are a disgusting human being by trying to steal items from a free site.
You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you think it is ok to keep my item and get your credits back.
DO NOT bid on anymore of my auctions. I am blocking you. I only deal with honest listians.
Again shame on you.
10/24/2011 5:08 PM (about 10 hours ago), you wrote to citycop70: contacting you
I am contacting you on an auction of yours that won not long ago with the lady bug candy basket.
I have talked to a few people and I thought I should talk to you first before I decide on other actions.
But the auction item you sent me is not clean. it is covered in fur. On the sides and completely covering the bottom of the basket.
And in your description it was stated that it was clean.
MODERATOR
Please review all of my experience with listia. I believe you will find that I take great pride in providing good service to people and
don't file disputes on people for no reason. I have just cause and I am being totally truthful. I put careful thought into opening a
dispute and even spoke to a few other good standing listia members to decide whether or not to file a dispute. And as i have told you
about of the problem they stated to file a dispute. So I went ahead and told the auction buyer wrote listia from the contact section and then
filed the dispute.
And as you see above I get contacted by the seller in a neg. way for doing what i believe to be the right thing to do which is to
contact you and describe the issue.
Oct 25th, 2011 at 3:55:36 AM EDT (about 11 hours ago) by you
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xxbuffyxx82, you have a new message from citycop70
Your message starts here:
You are a thief. You want your credits back but won't send me my item back to me.
What do you call that. How many other people have you stolen from. Why do you think its alright to keep my item and get the creds back.
I told u I would be happy to refund your credits as soon as I get the item back. I don't see how u think its ok to keep the item. That is called stealing.
You give all listians a bad name by acting like this. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.
Keeping the item and getting refund of credits is stealing so you can go to hell.
Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:16 AM
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how come you dont reply on the auction page.... and i never stated that i had to keep the item.
I stated its not my responsibility pay to send the item back. for you to state that its clean and the item actually wasn't.
Oct 25th, 2011 at 4:44:21 AM EDT (about 10 hours ago) by you
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I thought I was replying on the auction page. You are nothing but a thief and a liar.
You make it sound like I sent you a nasty item. The pictures show the item is clean and not filthy like you are implying.
If it had some dog hair on it you should just vacume it off not try to get your credits back and keep my item.
Like I am really going to trust you to send it back to me buy sending you money. You are crazy.
There are very little scammers on this cite but a person like you are the reason people like me
have to get tracking numbers for the free items we send out.
The 400 credits you gave for the item is not that much and I don't care if you get them back but ill be damned
if you keep my item too. I will let everyone I know not to ever have dealings with you on this site again.
You are a thief which makes you a disgusting human being. I joined listia so I can pass on some great items for free with shipping
I pay for because I believe in the free site but theifs like you ruin it for everyone.
Oct 25th, 2011 at 7:14:28 AM EDT (about 7 hours ago) by citycop70
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(notice the time on these two this person ponders for 15mins)
Oh. In my experience when the first thing someone throws out is their religion when trying to make a point that means they are lying.
I have been a police officer for 15 years and when someone on the street tells me that the are a Christian or any other religion so they would
not commit the crime has always been proven they did commit the crime. And what is the first thing you threw out there. Your religion.
You should be ashamed of your self. If u don't like the item just send it back and get your credits back. That is so simple.
But u want me to send you money so I can get my item back from you. That makes no sense.
Oct 25th, 2011 at 7:31:30 AM EDT (about 7 hours ago) by citycop70
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Then as a person of the law so to speak you should have noticed that when a person is totally on the defensive from the get go like you have
been normally means they are in the wrong. Also as a person of the law you should know for a fact that SLANDER and DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER
is against the law. QUOTING YOU HERE " I WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW NOT TO EVER DO DEALING WITH YOU ON THIS SITE AGAIN.
" And you threaten me with that. Threatening people is also against the law. And those are just easy facts that they first teach you in criminal justice.
Which I take at youngstown state university. Along with psychology. which is a needed course for criminal justice.
Then you attack my religion. Makes me wonder what kind of a person you really are. Just because I believe in god makes me a liar...hmmm
I am not the one calling names here and putting words in my mouth that i never typed here and threatening me with slander and defamation of character.
Which my feedback here clearly indicates my character for this site.
and QUOTING YOU AGAIN " IF IT HAD SOME DOG HAIR ON IT YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST VACUM IT OFF (vacuum)"
So you just think that you can send items to people that have fur on them and its their job to clean it.....
you shouldn't be auctioning things that people have to clean! It's not my job to clean an item that is described as clean which means there
shouldn't be any fur on it to begin with and its a children's item at that.
I have never stated the item was nasty and I don't even describe it in a way that someone should think nasty or filthy at all.
And I didn't ask you to send me money at all. I stated that I shouldn't have to pay to ship an item back that was sent to me dirty.
People are allergic to pet fur! One of my children could have been harmed if they had been allergic to dog fur.
If I was a bad mom or person I wouldn't have ever alerted you to the fact it had fur all over it.
I wasn't hostile or ignorant or rude or ridicule you or resulting in name calling to mention it to you and I didn't threaten you with slander either.
Stop threatening me its just not cool!
Oct 25th, 2011 at 2:41:08 PM EDT (less than a minute ago) by you"